Private Space is bloated

Private Space is stuffed with many of the default apps of iodéOS which are completely unnecessary. Why on earth do I need Maps, eSIM, News, Messages, Updater, Weather etc. in Private Space? It should be minimal. Anyone who needs utility apps can just clone them into Private Space or download them.

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I always had the same idea about it. Why double it all when I can install the only apps I need?

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I think this is the nature of Private Space (upstream design), it sets up a separate user profile, and all those apps are part of the default profile.

It could come only with f-droid then each user decides which app to install

Well then maybe at least make unnecessary apps possible to be disabled. Can’t even disable weather, euicc, news, updater and audiofx :frowning:

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It’s not from F-Droid, it’s because of Lineage. Here’s a screenshot of a Lineage smartphone. All the apps I didn’t want and can’t delete.

You then have to deactivate them again, and then they are in the confidential area except for the last two.

One step back: on a smartphone with iodé, this is prevented by the in-house apps.

But iodé could change that !!!

There has been some discussion on how to handle the multiple user / workspace scenario a bit better. But it is a bit complicated as the “Preinstalled Apps” management makes adjustments to the system root so an app removal with it will remove for all users. I did a bit of light testing and did confirm it is possible to uninstall a “graphically uninstallable” Private Space app this way:

adb uninstall --user 11 org.breezyweather

You can confirm that user 11 is your Private Space this way:

$ adb shell pm list users
Users:
	UserInfo{0:null:4c13} running
	UserInfo{10:Work profile:1030} running
	UserInfo{11:Private space:1010} running

So I think you are right, there are probably some things that could be done by iodéOS to start with an essentially “empty” userspace. Probably the “multi-user / multi-workspace” refactoring of “Preinstalled Apps” would probably be the best?

Side note: I personally still use “Shelter” with the “Work Profile” for things like my banking app I don’t want running continually so can remove / disable / auto-freeze individual apps. I personally didn’t find the ‘Private Space’ give me the features I would like. I think even on an Android / AOSP level it is still being refined, so possibly newer Android revisions will make further adjustments.

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I don’t find the things with the pre-installed apps in a different userprofile or private space, super dramatic. But of course that’s just my opinion. Anyway, I wouldn’t want to speak here of bloatware. That’s different for me.

Android is not a good system for multi-users in generel. After each restart, the admin user must first log in before another user can log in. If it’s all about separating apps, shelter is a much better choice.

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