Do we need a VPN with iodéOS?

Hi,

I think the concept of iodéOS is to have a man in the middle that blocks trackers. Does it imply anything regarding VPN? I wrote VPN in the system parameters, and I only found the button that passes Hotspot connection share throught the system VPN. But I don’t find the main VPN settings. Is it because we don’t need any VPN with the iodéOS design?

Thanks, maybe I just need to understand or find the VPN set up parameters…

EDIT: sorry, I use a French language interface, I realised VPN is RPV in French.

You can also try https://www.wireguard.com/

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Make it clear what a VPN stands for.
With public VPN you can improve your privacy because your public IP address does not appear at the end point.
But that only applies - and real only - if you use a trusted VPN, which, among other things, do not write any log files.

If you want to use your own VPN, for example to your own router, you also need - most of the time - a compatible app mabye Wireguard. (that depends on your router) but here you would use your own public IP …

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iodéOS does not reroute internet traffic anonymously through a different IP address from a desired location, which is the general reason for using a VPN. If you desire to reroute your phone’s internet traffic anonymously through a different IP address then you should sign up for a trustworthy VPN service.

@Techno_libre, a feature of the iodéOS blocker is that it does not occupy the VPN slot on your phone, as others ad blocking solutions such as AdGuard do (? I think this is still true?). So yes as @HandyTravis and others note, you can install and use any VPN service you choose with iodéOS.

But if you need one or not is a bit more subjective to answer, however :slight_smile:

yes, :+1: that ist the big advantage of iodeOS. :slight_smile:

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I use orbot most of the time, which makes a system wide or app specific connection to the tor network, depending on your needs. Speed-wise, I have had no issues as I use my phone for web browsing, email, sms or signal messaging mainly, not video streaming or other network intensive activities.

I also have mullvad vpn which I switch to should I need faster speeds, but that’s almost never on my phone.

I always understood that a vpn was primarily for security & tor for privacy, ie your vpn provider knows your original, real ip address, the websites you visit & your exit ip address, so you need to place faith in a commercial vpn or create your own. The tor network on the other hand is better suited to privacy as only the 1st node knows your real ip address, the successive nodes only know the previous node & the following node. So node 4, for example knows only node 3 not 2, 1 or your device ip.

The iode blocker is great, also is a good browser blocker like ublock origin to work alongside the iode blocker.

If you care about your privacy, use tor, block trackers with the iode blocker (at least) switch location services off & use a decent email app that strips tracking links & images such as fairemail. Oh & use email aliases if websites / stores allow you to use them & try & avoid places that don’t, they just want your details, imo.

Your risk level is entirely subjective, personally I would prefer to not appear in a data-brokers tracking database if I can help it.

Sorry for the length of this reply.

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do-we-need-a-vpn ??

If that was the case, Iodé would have a VPN by default. So no.

And who is we ? Maybe people in some countries (like Iran).

I dont need a VPN. I read the conclusion at VPN for Privacy & Security | IVPN | Resist Online Surveillance

For the lazy: Using a VPN should be part of an overall strategy to protect your privacy - but only if you trust the VPN provider more than your ISP.

I trust my ISP. I dont trust proton, nord, whatever.

I do use Next Dns Manager with Hagezi multi ultimate blocklist and some extra options.

But.. thats me.

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There is another point for VPN:
VPN can also help against:

IP household tracking on Google and third-party providers: what it is and how to protect yourself

Longer article … But only in german:

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You trust your ISP? I am confused. I’ve literally never heard (or read) anyone saying “I trust my ISP” until now. Who is your ISP? Why do you trust them? In what way do you trust them?

You might trust your ISP if it was a certified subversive non-profit. I used to have one of those a long time ago.

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A VPN usually becomes the most useful when the only possibility of connecting to the internet is an unprotected Wifi network (a common scenario when travelling or in desolate areas with few network options). If connecting to such one, a VPN is imo a MUST. You can rely to one of the commercial services but in the end you also don’t know how they process your traffic so if you want to have certainty no one is logging your traffic use Wireguard with a tunnel to your home router.

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